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Buckets of Dice 07 and SAGA into the future
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5monkeys



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anarchangel wrote:

If 4-5 Christchurch people start posting here, bam, it's a national board with a significant proportion of Christchurch gamers.

...snip...

Lower traffic conversation than RPGnet (it's a feature rather than a pro or a con)

And on the meta-level, it builds community and could result in better local cons.


Roughly how many Wellington bods are there that regularly post here?

I'm of the opinion that Chch people would be initially coming on here to talk to Wellingtonians. Then they'd moved to Wellington... then they'd move to the States. Smile
Nah, but I do think that unless a bunch of people planned to talk to each other here there might not be enough to draw them in. Perhaps if game advice/input was saught from the greater forum?

One of the reasons I like rpg.net is the high volume. I just lurk, but I get quite a bit of industry and mechanical and play information from Open. I've looked around these boards before briefly, but I think unless one is willing to dig into the threads the casual viewer's not going to get much. I'm conditioned against starting new threads for some reason.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My personal list of what I think we need is:

1) We need more buy-in from the local players so they attend and lead on to being GM's in later years.

2) We need confirmed room bookings for timing 5 months in advance minimum for advertising. Same goes for Gm's blurbs, Larp and Grand Strat.

Getting the first is awkward. We probably need to speak more to locals, build it up months in advance, consistently telling people it's on. When our secondary sponsor, Comics, didn't even know it was on when I went in on Thursday to buy stuff, I had to wonder a little. Repetition is probably the key. Strength of local players does more for the con in the long term than targeting wellington players, imho.

I wonder if all it takes is the BoD organisers to talk about BoD and its planning on an open forum like this, so everyone sees progress? Regular updates to members, etc.


I agree with all of that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5monkeys wrote:

Roughly how many Wellington bods are there that regularly post here?


I'd say less than 10 who post regularly on topics of interest to gamers generally, then a bunch who post about specific regional events across the north island.


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I'm of the opinion that Chch people would be initially coming on here to talk to Wellingtonians. Then they'd moved to Wellington... then they'd move to the States. Smile


I can see why you wouldn't want to do that, the dollar's crap Laughing


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Nah, but I do think that unless a bunch of people planned to talk to each other here there might not be enough to draw them in. Perhaps if game advice/input was sought from the greater forum?


Well there is the capacity for sub-forums for specific games as can be seen on the main forum board. And I certainly mean that people should use the greater forum, not just the SAGA sub-forum.

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One of the reasons I like rpg.net is the high volume. I just lurk, but I get quite a bit of industry and mechanical and play information from Open.


I totally agree.


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I've looked around these boards before briefly, but I think unless one is willing to dig into the threads the casual viewer's not going to get much. I'm conditioned against starting new threads for some reason.


A pathological lurker Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For myself, I only made it to one session of BoD this year because I'm currently in a play, but I did notice the low turnout on Saturday morning.
Maybe we should float some ideas for Grand Strats/LARPs here and see what interests people?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lunaticvermin wrote:
For myself, I only made it to one session of BoD this year because I'm currently in a play, but I did notice the low turnout on Saturday morning.


Yep, just 5monkey's there on saturday morning from what I hear Wink


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Maybe we should float some ideas for Grand Strats/LARPs here and see what interests people?


Are there plans afoot for either already? I thought I overheard some scheming at the con. At any rate, ideas are always good, especially if they generate buzz.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, just 5monkey's there on saturday morning from what I hear Wink


I found out why I didn't know about that schedule change. Alan posted it to the Saga list on the Thursday and I didn't get the Digest until Friday night when I was already at the live game. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anarchangel wrote:
5monkeys wrote:

Roughly how many Wellington bods are there that regularly post here?


I'd say less than 10 who post regularly on topics of interest to gamers generally, then a bunch who post about specific regional events across the north island.


..and those of us who spam or are generally just disruptive without adding much content. Twisted Evil

Luckily someone provided us with our own thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um...the GS for next year, there is some plottage going on, and I'm hoping to at least get things into first gear and get some work done on the side (ie a few ideas chucked around before games sessions every tuesday and thursday and such). A few ideas have gone up between myself and Alan, with the only disagreement being a setting so far. But the mechanics and such generally agreed on. We'll see how this pans out.

As for the questions on the committee, excuse the lack of me using the quote feature, yes, I certainly plan to run for it again. There's a few plots running around on this no doubt, with most I've been talking to in agreement with a few ideas.

And yes...I would certainly be pushing for getting BoD booked ASAP in place so we don't get some sort of scheduling conflict, as well as collecting GMs a few months in advance and such.

Also, I personally, would love to see MiniCon make a return, even if just for the Cantabs and Dunedinites(who, really, are only a drive away) to use as a socialising event. Board games, roleplay, BBQ, wargaming possibly(to try and drag some of those wargamers over), maybe a small LARP or GS on one of the nights. Something small and as a testing ground for GMs in prep for BoD.

And yes, post-AGM, this, as a bookmark, will get dragged out and thrown at the new committee.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrexia wrote:
Anarchangel wrote:
5monkeys wrote:

Roughly how many Wellington bods are there that regularly post here?


I'd say less than 10 who post regularly on topics of interest to gamers generally, then a bunch who post about specific regional events across the north island.


..and those of us who spam or are generally just disruptive without adding much content. Twisted Evil

Luckily someone provided us with our own thread.


God bless me Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGig wrote:
as well as collecting GMs a few months in advance and such.


See if you can rustle some up before Kapcon so you can take up a flyer/poster with solid info. Although, how much a flyer/poster will help with recruitment is probably up for debate.


McGig wrote:

Also, I personally, would love to see MiniCon make a return, even if just for the Cantabs and Dunedinites(who, really, are only a drive away) to use as a socialising event. Board games, roleplay, BBQ, wargaming possibly(to try and drag some of those wargamers over), maybe a small LARP or GS on one of the nights. Something small and as a testing ground for GMs in prep for BoD.


Nice. I'm a big fan of more cons, not that I could attend, but there you go Smile


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And yes, post-AGM, this, as a bookmark, will get dragged out and thrown at the new committee.


Excellent. There are a few other threads in this sub-board worth a read IIRC. Check out anything labeled BoD, I think Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want Con ideas? How about a Grand Strat played in the Jurassic.
You play dinosaur nations, and the only economics you need to balance is food and population. It's all about invading other dinosaur nations to compete for specific food types that allows your species to survive. Game turns are long time-wise, so you can evolutionary advances within the game.

Now thats thinking outside some sort of square...

I only got the schedule change for Saturday morning on the previous night from Alan. Otherwise Lex and I would have been there early. Yuck.

Every year we talk after Con's like this, saying things we could do right, things that went wrong, good things, bad things, etc. But it's a year between BoD's which means all the enthusiasm from what just happened gets lost out the window. Having a one-day convention within term time towards the end of the year would help with that, plus having one in the first term a few weeks after clubs day may also give that a boost.

Plus, is it time to start advertising to schools with gaming clubs? I know a bunch of us used to come to BoD when in 6th form. I'd like to think we weren't completely embarrassing back then. Don't answer that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick_Adams wrote:
You want Con ideas? How about a Grand Strat played in the Jurassic.
You play dinosaur nations, and the only economics you need to balance is food and population. It's all about invading other dinosaur nations to compete for specific food types that allows your species to survive. Game turns are long time-wise, so you can evolutionary advances within the game.


I like it, but how do you get the Larp aspects in there?


Nick_Adams wrote:
Every year we talk after Con's like this, saying things we could do right, things that went wrong, good things, bad things, etc. But it's a year between BoD's which means all the enthusiasm from what just happened gets lost out the window. Having a one-day convention within term time towards the end of the year would help with that, plus having one in the first term a few weeks after clubs day may also give that a boost.


Yep, and I think an online community could help there too.


Nick_Adams wrote:
Plus, is it time to start advertising to schools with gaming clubs? I know a bunch of us used to come to BoD when in 6th form. I'd like to think we weren't completely embarrassing back then. Don't answer that.


Isn't it always time? As for the second, I think we've outlived anyone who might have incriminating evidence Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anarchangel wrote:
Nick_Adams wrote:
You want Con ideas? How about a Grand Strat played in the Jurassic.
You play dinosaur nations, and the only economics you need to balance is food and population. It's all about invading other dinosaur nations to compete for specific food types that allows your species to survive. Game turns are long time-wise, so you can evolutionary advances within the game.


I like it, but how do you get the Larp aspects in there?



Well, the Tyrannosaur team would have to mimic having stunted forelimbs and thus have real trouble writing any orders out...

I'm totally playing on the Velociraptor team though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Javelin wrote:

I'm totally playing on the Velociraptor team though.




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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For reference, I will be running for some position on the committee for 2008. I will probably take a low-work position like Secretary or Quartermaster, but I plan on helping with several events (especially BoD) outside of that role.

I like Nick's ideas on Grand Strats. We so often end up with basically the same idea for a GS - you have a board, you have hexes on the board, units move within the hexes. I'm going to be working with Alan and Mark on ideas for (and hopefully development of) the Grand Strat over the next few months, so I'll see what we can get done.
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